0009950: Scribes do not scribe - Dwarf Fortress Bug Tracker

Notes
(0035734) InfantIguana (reporter) 2016-08-01 20:07	Perhaps this is a relative of 0009787? That one also involves scribes not doing their jobs for no clear reason.

(0035736) ediblesideburns (reporter) 2016-08-02 06:13	I would suggest that it's probably separate since the dwarves don't start the task and get distracted; the jobs never start, even after years. Perhaps it's similar in ways that I can't see though.

(0035738) InfantIguana (reporter) 2016-08-02 08:34	I was able to make a scribe copy a book in the provided save by assigning a new scribe to the library - the scribe being former gem cutter Udil Abodalath - and afterwards forbidding/unforbidding a book. Another scribe, Tholtig Gasolid, seemed to copy the other remaining book without any encouragement, although I had to forbid/unforbid that book as well in order to get them to finish the job due to the occurrence of issue 0009787. Can anyone replicate this?

(0035739) ediblesideburns (reporter) 2016-08-02 08:47	I can confirm that I was able to replicate part of this - it seems that forbidding/unforbidding the works to be copied is what encourages the scribes to start copying. However, they will never begin for me without this input. In addition, they do get distracted and stop copying as per the bug http://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/mantisbt/view.php?id=9787 [^] which is fixed by forbidding/unforbidding.

(0035904) wierdw (reporter) 2016-09-26 12:54 edited on: 2016-09-26 12:59	I am experiencing the same issue, but forbidding and unforbidding books or quires does not encourage copying. The only activity with written quires or codices is to read them. Scribes still just stand around being useless, and or-- running off to go party in the tavern. I can supply a save if needed.

(0035911) Evans (reporter) 2016-09-27 03:38	Same here. They initially copied many items, but after 100+ copies they no longer do so. I tried forbidding/unforbidding - initially it helped but now it doesn't. Books and scrolls are in the Bookcases with blue 'TSK' next to them, I guess the game just goes silly when there are so many items queued to copy.

(0037127) Dwarfu (manager) 2017-11-29 21:15 edited on: 2017-12-04 03:29	Note: I since found 0009418 that discovered this problem. As of 44.02, my scribe did not continue copying books after making a few copies. It seems the library is counting even written scrolls as "writing material". In the current game, in the 'l' menu, the library shows: total objects (incl. copies): 38 writing material (desired): 32 (b:25) The library contains (all on bookcases): 31 scroll copies 1 original scroll 6 original codices there are no unwritten materials in any of the chests. I made sure no items were TSK'd and no jobs present for reading, etc. So, the total objects is correct at 38. The writing material is counting all written scrolls (as well as any unwritten ones, when they are present). Because of this, no new empty writing material will be brought to the chests for the scribes to continue work (I have copies set to two, and several items do not have any copies yet made, so there IS work to be done). They won't use any material stored outside of the library.

(0037138) Dwarfu (manager) 2017-11-30 02:10	Seems to prevent people from reading also. Current workaround is to ensure the desired writing materials is above the number of total objects by the amount of new works you want completed. But everything will halt again when that number is surpassed.

Issue History
Date Modified	Username	Field	Change
2016-08-01 19:06	ediblesideburns	New Issue
2016-08-01 20:07	InfantIguana	Note Added: 0035734
2016-08-02 06:13	ediblesideburns	Note Added: 0035736
2016-08-02 08:34	InfantIguana	Note Added: 0035738
2016-08-02 08:47	ediblesideburns	Note Added: 0035739
2016-08-02 13:37	Loci	Relationship added	related to 0009787
2016-09-26 12:54	wierdw	Note Added: 0035904
2016-09-26 12:59	wierdw	Note Edited: 0035904	View Revisions
2016-09-27 03:38	Evans	Note Added: 0035911
2017-05-06 09:24	lethosor	Relationship added	related to 0009244
2017-11-29 21:15	Dwarfu	Note Added: 0037127
2017-11-29 21:22	Dwarfu	Assigned To	=> Dwarfu
2017-11-29 21:22	Dwarfu	Status	new => acknowledged
2017-11-29 21:43	Dwarfu	Note Edited: 0037127	View Revisions
2017-11-29 21:47	Dwarfu	Note Edited: 0037127	View Revisions
2017-11-29 21:56	Dwarfu	Note Edited: 0037127	View Revisions
2017-11-30 01:57	Dwarfu	Note Edited: 0037127	View Revisions
2017-11-30 02:00	Dwarfu	Relationship replaced	child of 0009787
2017-11-30 02:10	Dwarfu	Note Added: 0037138
2017-12-04 03:29	Dwarfu	Note Edited: 0037127	View Revisions
2018-01-24 17:59	Toady One	Status	acknowledged => resolved
2018-01-24 17:59	Toady One	Fixed in Version	=> Next Version
2018-01-24 17:59	Toady One	Resolution	open => fixed
2018-01-24 17:59	Toady One	Assigned To	Dwarfu => Toady One