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IDProjectCategoryView StatusDate SubmittedLast Update
0001563Dwarf FortressDwarf Mode -- Interface, Farm Plotspublic2010-04-26 20:122012-03-03 21:50
ReporterDoctorZuber 
Assigned ToFootkerchief 
PrioritynormalSeverityminorReproducibilityalways
StatusresolvedResolutionduplicate 
PlatformPCOSWindows VistaOS Versionmeh
Product Version0.31.03 
Target VersionFixed in Version 
Summary0001563: Fish are ALWAYS flagged and removed at embark even if they are available
DescriptionEvery time I embark I've been noticing that it always warns on turtles at embark and yet sometimes, I go back and find turtles are present anyhow. After ignoring this issue a while I decided to look closer.

I set up my custom embark including 1 of every basic meat, and one of each type of turtle, cave fish, and cave lobster.

I then embarked, and looked at my list of warnings for what was unavailable. As anticipated, turtle, cave fish, and cave lobster were all listed. But each was only listed once, not twice. It also rejects on a variety of meats, but this is pretty much as expected.

I then looked into the new items menu at fish. cave fish and cave lobster were both present. each was listed twice.

Repeating this test, I closed the game, and embarked on a new location. Again, it flags on turtle, cave fish, and cave lobster giving a single warning for each, and warns on an assortment of meats as well.

This time checking the fish list, all three are present.

Steps To Reproduce1. save an embark profile including as many different types of fish as possible.
2. start a new fortress using this saved profile
3. look over the warning screen and notice all types of fish are flagged.
4. look at the new items list and try to add fish, some or all of the fish are likely to be available.
Tagsembark, fish
Attached Files

- Relationships
duplicate of 0000722resolvedToady One Embark profile warns that fish not available, but they actually are 

-  Notes
(0005248)
DoctorZuber (reporter)
2010-04-26 20:13

I'm going to hazard a guess that this is related to the double listings for fish described in 0000135.
(0005250)
Logical2u (manager)
2010-04-26 20:15

I'll confirm that this occurred in my game.
I concur with Zuber's guess that it's related to the gender tagging. It seems likely that the game loses track of the gender tag during saving (since it's meat - it doesn't matter if it was a male or female fish once it's dead), but looks for again once the profile is loaded. Butchered meat seems immune most of the time - the gender differentiation is presumably lost in the processing?
(0005251)
DoctorZuber (reporter)
2010-04-26 20:18
edited on: 2010-04-26 20:19

Note: it removes BOTH fish entries for each type although it only throws one warning about each type of fish.

(0005258)
Footkerchief (manager)
2010-04-26 20:37
edited on: 2010-04-26 20:39

Butchered meat seems immune most of the time - the gender differentiation is presumably lost in the processing?

Yeah, that would make sense. Meat materials aren't caste-specific, but the notoriously weird fish item is linked to a caste (I think if you're creating a fish item at a smelter, you use CREATURE_TOKEN:CASTE_TOKEN in lieu of a material).

(0005260)
Footkerchief (manager)
2010-04-26 20:39

By the way, this is more or less a duplicate of 0000722.
(0005262)
Logical2u (manager)
2010-04-26 20:46

So, I guess this should get childed then.

Serves me right for not searching!
(0005269)
Footkerchief (manager)
2010-04-26 20:54

Yeah, let's continue the discussion at 0000722.
(0005270)
DoctorZuber (reporter)
2010-04-26 20:55

Poop, I did look first too.

- Issue History
Date Modified Username Field Change
2010-04-26 20:12 DoctorZuber New Issue
2010-04-26 20:13 DoctorZuber Note Added: 0005248
2010-04-26 20:13 DoctorZuber Tag Attached: fish
2010-04-26 20:13 DoctorZuber Tag Attached: embark
2010-04-26 20:15 Logical2u Note Added: 0005250
2010-04-26 20:18 DoctorZuber Note Added: 0005251
2010-04-26 20:19 DoctorZuber Note Edited: 0005251 View Revisions
2010-04-26 20:37 Footkerchief Note Added: 0005258
2010-04-26 20:37 DoctorZuber Note Added: 0005259
2010-04-26 20:38 Footkerchief Note Edited: 0005258 View Revisions
2010-04-26 20:39 Footkerchief Note Edited: 0005258 View Revisions
2010-04-26 20:39 Footkerchief Note Added: 0005260
2010-04-26 20:42 DoctorZuber Note Deleted: 0005259
2010-04-26 20:46 Logical2u Note Added: 0005262
2010-04-26 20:53 Footkerchief Relationship added child of 0000722
2010-04-26 20:54 Footkerchief Note Added: 0005269
2010-04-26 20:55 DoctorZuber Note Added: 0005270
2010-08-18 16:30 Logical2u Relationship added related to 0000135
2010-12-25 05:07 Kogut Issue Monitored: Kogut
2012-02-26 14:38 Footkerchief Relationship replaced duplicate of 0000722
2012-02-26 14:38 Footkerchief Status new => resolved
2012-02-26 14:38 Footkerchief Resolution open => duplicate
2012-02-26 14:38 Footkerchief Assigned To => Footkerchief
2012-02-26 14:38 Footkerchief Relationship deleted related to 0000135
2012-03-03 21:50 Kogut Issue End Monitor: Kogut


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