0000253: Dwarven liaison/diplomat misnamed as "Fisherdwarf"

(0000490)
Dwarfu (manager)
2010-04-03 06:52

Did you view the Liason? They are title by their civilian jobs instead of their civilization title. But they still hold the title, which shows if you [v]iew them.

Not sure if being called by their civilian job is as intended, though.

(0000743)
dibujante (reporter)
2010-04-03 18:55

I've gotten goblins and hammerdwarves as liaisons in this version.

In fact, in one game, my entire ruling class were goblins.

(0012436)
swuboo (reporter)
2010-09-05 21:14

"The human Fish Cleaner Ganuh Spibsashessat from Behal Alat has arrived."

This is 31.12, and contrary to what Dwarfu says, [v] indicates that he's a Fish Cleaner.

(0015495)
Dwarfu (manager)
2011-02-25 05:08

swuboo, 31.12 had this in the release notes, which wasn't the original problem, though that has also been fixed:

"If your old fort has a dead liaison, your replacement liaison will be named after one of the standard professions most likely, but they should still perform their job."

Anyone still seeing diplomats announced in this way?

(0015502)
hyperactiveChipmunk (reporter)
2011-02-25 07:49
edited on: 2011-02-25 07:51

My first liaison just arrived at my new fort, generated with 31.19:
"The Fisherdwarf Melbil Domasnish from Lor Duthal has arrived."
"A caravan from Lor Duthal has arrived."

He is listed, however, as "Melbil Domasnish, outpost liaison."

(0015504)
Dwarfu (manager)
2011-02-25 11:48

Ok, thanks for the update, I thought it may have been changed/fixed instead of announcing the profession. May be intentional now.

(0023844)
Hairy Dude (reporter)
2013-02-04 13:51

Got this in 0.34.11: "The Fisherdwarf Erush Oslanabsam from Regasen has arrived." [v] says he's a Fisherdwarf, [k] says he's an outpost liaison.

When I saw the arrival message I thought: oh, some migrants? Didn't I get some already this season? IMO it should always say "The outpost liaison from Somewhere has arrived" since he's not arriving *as a fisherdwarf*, but as a liaison.

(0023856)
lethosor (manager)
2013-02-20 07:45

Not sure if this is related, but in 34.11 if you [F]ollow the diplomat as they're leaving, the job name at the bottom changes to a civilian job (I have seen Fisherdwarf once or twice)
The announcements I get usually say "A liaison from (somewhere) has arrived" or something similar... I've never seen a name announced for a diplomat, but that could just be a side effect of some of my worldgen habits.

(0027446)
Dwarfu (manager)
2014-07-24 13:22

The liaison seems to be being announced properly upon arrival, both in the announcement list and by [v]iewing them [k] looking around, despite what their profession is shown as in the civ list.

Anyone seen otherwise in the 40.xx series?

(0027508)
Dwarfu (manager)
2014-07-25 10:08

I'm marking this as fixed as of 40.04 and adding it to the change log, but if it is found that it happened earlier, we can change it. Also, if the diplomat is being handled differently than the liaison, that'll need to be looked at as well.

(0027857)
Footkerchief (manager)
2014-07-29 07:04

Reopening as per 0007707

(0035178)
Toady One (administrator)
2016-05-15 14:52

I'm sure this still happens, but I can't get it to happen. I'll need a save before the arrival announcement that reproduces reliably -- if it is after the announcement, I won't be able to use it.

Issue History
Date Modified	Username	Field	Change
2010-04-03 01:42	Put	New Issue
2010-04-03 06:52	Dwarfu	Note Added: 0000490
2010-04-03 06:52	Dwarfu	Tag Attached: liason
2010-04-03 18:55	dibujante	Note Added: 0000743
2010-04-06 02:26	Aquillion	Tag Attached: liaison
2010-04-06 09:51	Dwarfu	Tag Detached: liason
2010-04-14 14:27	Footkerchief	Summary	Dwarven Liaison => Dwarven liaison/diplomat misnamed as "Fisherdwarf"
2010-04-29 13:28	Footkerchief	Category	General => Dwarf Mode -- Interface, Unit View
2010-06-01 03:08	Footkerchief	Category	Dwarf Mode -- Interface, Unit View => Dwarf Mode -- Nobles
2010-06-01 10:30	Footkerchief	Relationship added	has duplicate 0002118
2010-06-01 16:59	Footkerchief	Relationship deleted	has duplicate 0002118
2010-09-05 21:14	swuboo	Note Added: 0012436
2011-02-25 05:08	Dwarfu	Note Added: 0015495
2011-02-25 07:49	hyperactiveChipmunk	Note Added: 0015502
2011-02-25 07:51	hyperactiveChipmunk	Note Edited: 0015502	View Revisions
2011-02-25 11:48	Dwarfu	Note Added: 0015504
2011-02-25 11:48	Dwarfu	Tag Attached: Intentional/Expected?
2011-12-11 10:19	Dwarfu	Relationship added	has duplicate 0002118
2011-12-11 10:19	Dwarfu	Issue Monitored: Footkerchief
2013-02-04 13:51	Hairy Dude	Note Added: 0023844
2013-02-20 07:45	lethosor	Note Added: 0023856
2014-07-24 13:21	Dwarfu	Tag Attached: Fixed in 0.40.04?
2014-07-24 13:21	Dwarfu	Tag Detached: Intentional/Expected?
2014-07-24 13:22	Dwarfu	Note Added: 0027446
2014-07-24 13:22	Dwarfu	Assigned To	=> Dwarfu
2014-07-24 13:22	Dwarfu	Status	new => needs feedback
2014-07-25 10:07	Dwarfu	Tag Detached: Fixed in 0.40.04?
2014-07-25 10:08	Dwarfu	Note Added: 0027508
2014-07-25 10:08	Dwarfu	Status	needs feedback => resolved
2014-07-25 10:08	Dwarfu	Fixed in Version	=> 0.40.04
2014-07-25 10:08	Dwarfu	Resolution	open => fixed
2014-07-25 10:08	Dwarfu	Assigned To	Dwarfu => Toady One
2014-07-29 07:04	Footkerchief	Relationship added	has duplicate 0007707
2014-07-29 07:04	Footkerchief	Assigned To	Toady One => Footkerchief
2014-07-29 07:04	Footkerchief	Status	resolved => confirmed
2014-07-29 07:04	Footkerchief	Note Added: 0027857
2014-07-29 16:04	lethosor	Fixed in Version	0.40.04 =>
2014-07-29 21:52	Footkerchief	Relationship added	related to 0007727
2014-12-21 12:31	Footkerchief	Relationship added	related to 0008651
2014-12-21 13:51	Detros	Issue Monitored: Detros
2016-05-15 14:52	Toady One	Note Added: 0035178
2016-05-15 14:53	Toady One	Assigned To	Footkerchief => Toady One
2016-05-15 14:53	Toady One	Status	confirmed => needs feedback
2016-08-07 19:13	Loci	Resolution	fixed => open

Notes
(0000490) Dwarfu (manager) 2010-04-03 06:52	Did you view the Liason? They are title by their civilian jobs instead of their civilization title. But they still hold the title, which shows if you [v]iew them. Not sure if being called by their civilian job is as intended, though.

(0000743) dibujante (reporter) 2010-04-03 18:55	I've gotten goblins and hammerdwarves as liaisons in this version. In fact, in one game, my entire ruling class were goblins.

(0012436) swuboo (reporter) 2010-09-05 21:14	"The human Fish Cleaner Ganuh Spibsashessat from Behal Alat has arrived." This is 31.12, and contrary to what Dwarfu says, [v] indicates that he's a Fish Cleaner.

(0015495) Dwarfu (manager) 2011-02-25 05:08	swuboo, 31.12 had this in the release notes, which wasn't the original problem, though that has also been fixed: "If your old fort has a dead liaison, your replacement liaison will be named after one of the standard professions most likely, but they should still perform their job." Anyone still seeing diplomats announced in this way?

(0015502) hyperactiveChipmunk (reporter) 2011-02-25 07:49 edited on: 2011-02-25 07:51	My first liaison just arrived at my new fort, generated with 31.19: "The Fisherdwarf Melbil Domasnish from Lor Duthal has arrived." "A caravan from Lor Duthal has arrived." He is listed, however, as "Melbil Domasnish, outpost liaison."

(0015504) Dwarfu (manager) 2011-02-25 11:48	Ok, thanks for the update, I thought it may have been changed/fixed instead of announcing the profession. May be intentional now.

(0023844) Hairy Dude (reporter) 2013-02-04 13:51	Got this in 0.34.11: "The Fisherdwarf Erush Oslanabsam from Regasen has arrived." [v] says he's a Fisherdwarf, [k] says he's an outpost liaison. When I saw the arrival message I thought: oh, some migrants? Didn't I get some already this season? IMO it should always say "The outpost liaison from Somewhere has arrived" since he's not arriving as a fisherdwarf, but as a liaison.

(0023856) lethosor (manager) 2013-02-20 07:45	Not sure if this is related, but in 34.11 if you [F]ollow the diplomat as they're leaving, the job name at the bottom changes to a civilian job (I have seen Fisherdwarf once or twice) The announcements I get usually say "A liaison from (somewhere) has arrived" or something similar... I've never seen a name announced for a diplomat, but that could just be a side effect of some of my worldgen habits.

(0027446) Dwarfu (manager) 2014-07-24 13:22	The liaison seems to be being announced properly upon arrival, both in the announcement list and by [v]iewing them [k] looking around, despite what their profession is shown as in the civ list. Anyone seen otherwise in the 40.xx series?

(0027508) Dwarfu (manager) 2014-07-25 10:08	I'm marking this as fixed as of 40.04 and adding it to the change log, but if it is found that it happened earlier, we can change it. Also, if the diplomat is being handled differently than the liaison, that'll need to be looked at as well.

(0027857) Footkerchief (manager) 2014-07-29 07:04	Reopening as per 0007707

(0035178) Toady One (administrator) 2016-05-15 14:52	I'm sure this still happens, but I can't get it to happen. I'll need a save before the arrival announcement that reproduces reliably -- if it is after the announcement, I won't be able to use it.