0005583: If your parent civilization is generated with only non-dwarven leaders, traders from dwarven caravans will be unable to go home. - Dwarf Fortress Bug Tracker

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0005583

Dwarf Fortress

Dwarf Mode -- Trade

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2012-03-08 18:35

2013-03-06 10:25

Reporter

dongler

Assigned To

Dwarfu

Priority

normal

Severity

minor

Reproducibility

sometimes

Status

resolved

Resolution

duplicate

Platform

Windows

OS

XP

OS Version

SP3

Product Version

0.34.02

Target Version

Fixed in Version

Summary

0005583: If your parent civilization is generated with only non-dwarven leaders, traders from dwarven caravans will be unable to go home.

Description

Since the very first dwarven caravan arrived at the end of the first year, the traders (but not the outpost liaison) have been unable to leave the local map, gathering along the map edge they used for entry. Curiously, none of them have gone insane, although they had ample time to do so before inevitably being killed by invaders or wild animals.

All other traders from all other civilizations are able to return home normally. This has never occurred in any of my other fortresses in 34.02, and the only peculiarity with this current fortress appears to be that my parent civilization has only two leaders, a king and queen, and both of them are humans. My sadness at the implication that my proud culture has been subjugated by humans is not a bug, it's a feature. :'( Each other civilization that appears on my Civilizations screen has leaders solely of their own respective races.

Another contributing factor may be that my fortress is geographically isolated and positioned on the edge of an ocean. Also, I have repeatedly received announcements reading "Their wagons have bypassed your inaccessible site" despite my depot being accessible, and in fact the merchants in question are always able to path to and trade at my depot normally, barring interruption by hostiles (which only happened once).

Steps To Reproduce

Since I cannot control the properties of civilizations created at world gen, I cannot confirm whether or not this bug applies only to dwarven caravans - it may apply to caravans of other civilizations if their leaders are also of a different race. Someone with either advanced modding experience or developer tools would be the ones to reproduce this.

Additional Information

I should probably upload the save file because this problem is so specific to my world's conditions.

Tags

civilization, traders

Relationships

duplicate of

resolved

"Friendly" migrants with Trader profession act like on-the-job merchants

Notes
(0021289) Quietust (reporter) 2012-03-08 19:01	Traders not leaving is 0005534 (and possibly 0005098), but it hasn't been established that this is due to leaders being of a different race...

(0021292) dongler (reporter) 2012-03-08 19:41	http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=5819 [^] for the save file.

(0023884) Quietust (reporter) 2013-03-06 08:30 edited on: 2013-03-06 08:30	Actually looking at the save file, it's clear that those aren't Merchants - they're bugged "Trader" migrants (i.e. 0005098).

(0023885) Dwarfu (manager) 2013-03-06 10:25	Thanks.

Issue History
Date Modified	Username	Field	Change
2012-03-08 18:35	dongler	New Issue
2012-03-08 18:42	dongler	Tag Attached: civilization
2012-03-08 18:42	dongler	Tag Attached: traders
2012-03-08 18:43	dongler	Issue Monitored: dongler
2012-03-08 19:01	Quietust	Note Added: 0021289
2012-03-08 19:33	dongler	Note Added: 0021291
2012-03-08 19:38	Footkerchief	Note View State: 0021291: private
2012-03-08 19:40	dongler	Note View State: 0021291: public
2012-03-08 19:40	dongler	Note View State: 0021291: private
2012-03-08 19:41	dongler	Note Added: 0021292
2012-03-08 19:47	Footkerchief	Relationship added	related to 0005534
2012-03-30 17:27	dongler	Note View State: 0021291: public
2013-03-04 03:03	Dwarfu	Note Deleted: 0021291
2013-03-06 08:30	Quietust	Note Added: 0023884
2013-03-06 08:30	Quietust	Note Edited: 0023884	View Revisions
2013-03-06 10:25	Dwarfu	Note Added: 0023885
2013-03-06 10:25	Dwarfu	Relationship added	duplicate of 0005098
2013-03-06 10:25	Dwarfu	Status	new => resolved
2013-03-06 10:25	Dwarfu	Resolution	open => duplicate
2013-03-06 10:25	Dwarfu	Assigned To	=> Dwarfu
2013-03-06 10:25	Dwarfu	Relationship deleted	related to 0005534

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