0009406: Undead siege includes living animal man Recruits (not necros?)

(0034115)
Detros (manager)
2015-12-22 00:43

Similar to 0007681, "Living and Undead Goblins attacking together peacefully but failing to path correctly".

(0034121)
Talvieno (reporter)
2015-12-22 09:07
edited on: 2015-12-27 18:30

Possibly related to 0008930 - "Army of crundle recruits, fleshball recruits, and a mudman recruit show up out of nowhere".

(0034123)
Button (reporter)
2015-12-22 09:43
edited on: 2015-12-27 18:30

I suspect these aren't related, as 0008930 is adventure-only and has to do with underground critters being ported to the surface, whereas this is fortress-only and appears to involve living sapients being considered members of a specific necromancer group (or possibly just accidentally considered undead).

(0035004)
Aussiemon (reporter)
2016-04-12 18:30
edited on: 2016-04-12 18:30

In 42.06, along with bug 0008099:
http://dffd.bay12games.com/file.php?id=11945 [^]

Living attackers are non-necromancer Dwarves.

(0038970)
PatrikLundell (reporter)
2018-11-27 04:54

This looks like the same issue as 0008631. Also, I though this issue was resolved by Toady, but can't find it in the bug fixing list. I believe the issue was caused by undead being promoted to lieutenants and losing their undead status in the process.

(0038971)
Shonai_Dweller (reporter)
2018-11-27 14:43

44.06 I think:
"Stopped live generals from being elevated from zombie populations"

(0038973)
Loci (manager)
2018-11-28 17:25

It seems unlikely that "generals" would appear on-site as "recruits".

(0038974)
Shonai_Dweller (reporter)
2018-11-28 19:04
edited on: 2018-11-28 19:20

I think the presence of a living general was causing the presence of living recruits. But, as I said, that was fixed, yet here are living recruits so I guess noone really knows now.

--edit after reading comments
Ah, there we go, just before the patch to fix the issue, Toady said, "Non-necro live leaders of zombie invasions: Well, this one turned out to be pretty brazen, complete with a pre-existing comment from me along the lines of "this may come up later" which apparently was forgotten. So, it shouldn't elevate live (or any) figures from zombie pops now. I still need to run some invasions on the provided saves to make sure everything is good, but progress, anyway."

So it looks as if the "or any" part of the fix either didn't work or has regressed.

Issue History
Date Modified	Username	Field	Change
2015-12-21 18:48	Button	New Issue
2015-12-22 00:43	Detros	Note Added: 0034115
2015-12-22 09:07	Talvieno	Note Added: 0034121
2015-12-22 09:43	Button	Note Added: 0034123
2015-12-22 11:25	Button	Note Edited: 0034123	View Revisions
2015-12-27 18:30	Dwarfu	Note Edited: 0034121	View Revisions
2015-12-27 18:30	Dwarfu	Note Edited: 0034123	View Revisions
2015-12-27 19:03	Dwarfu	Relationship added	related to 0006708
2016-02-03 09:49	Button	Tag Attached: Save Included
2016-04-12 18:30	Aussiemon	Note Added: 0035004
2016-04-12 18:30	Aussiemon	Note Edited: 0035004	View Revisions
2018-04-16 18:32	Huntthetroll	Issue Monitored: Huntthetroll
2018-11-27 04:54	PatrikLundell	Note Added: 0038970
2018-11-27 14:43	Shonai_Dweller	Note Added: 0038971
2018-11-28 17:25	Loci	Note Added: 0038973
2018-11-28 19:04	Shonai_Dweller	Note Added: 0038974
2018-11-28 19:20	Shonai_Dweller	Note Edited: 0038974	View Revisions
2018-12-02 13:34	Loci	Relationship added	child of 0008631

Notes
(0034115) Detros (manager) 2015-12-22 00:43	Similar to 0007681, "Living and Undead Goblins attacking together peacefully but failing to path correctly".

(0034121) Talvieno (reporter) 2015-12-22 09:07 edited on: 2015-12-27 18:30	Possibly related to 0008930 - "Army of crundle recruits, fleshball recruits, and a mudman recruit show up out of nowhere".

(0034123) Button (reporter) 2015-12-22 09:43 edited on: 2015-12-27 18:30	I suspect these aren't related, as 0008930 is adventure-only and has to do with underground critters being ported to the surface, whereas this is fortress-only and appears to involve living sapients being considered members of a specific necromancer group (or possibly just accidentally considered undead).

(0035004) Aussiemon (reporter) 2016-04-12 18:30 edited on: 2016-04-12 18:30	In 42.06, along with bug 0008099: http://dffd.bay12games.com/file.php?id=11945 [^] Living attackers are non-necromancer Dwarves.

(0038970) PatrikLundell (reporter) 2018-11-27 04:54	This looks like the same issue as 0008631. Also, I though this issue was resolved by Toady, but can't find it in the bug fixing list. I believe the issue was caused by undead being promoted to lieutenants and losing their undead status in the process.

(0038971) Shonai_Dweller (reporter) 2018-11-27 14:43	44.06 I think: "Stopped live generals from being elevated from zombie populations"

(0038973) Loci (manager) 2018-11-28 17:25	It seems unlikely that "generals" would appear on-site as "recruits".

(0038974) Shonai_Dweller (reporter) 2018-11-28 19:04 edited on: 2018-11-28 19:20	I think the presence of a living general was causing the presence of living recruits. But, as I said, that was fixed, yet here are living recruits so I guess noone really knows now. --edit after reading comments Ah, there we go, just before the patch to fix the issue, Toady said, "Non-necro live leaders of zombie invasions: Well, this one turned out to be pretty brazen, complete with a pre-existing comment from me along the lines of "this may come up later" which apparently was forgotten. So, it shouldn't elevate live (or any) figures from zombie pops now. I still need to run some invasions on the provided saves to make sure everything is good, but progress, anyway." So it looks as if the "or any" part of the fix either didn't work or has regressed.