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IDProjectCategoryView StatusDate SubmittedLast Update
0004063Dwarf FortressDwarf Mode -- Transport/Haulingpublic2011-02-23 12:472011-02-24 17:29
ReporterBriggs 
Assigned ToFootkerchief 
PrioritynormalSeveritymajorReproducibilityalways
StatusresolvedResolutionno change required 
PlatformPCOSWindowsOS VersionWindows XP SP3
Product Version0.31.19 
Target VersionFixed in Version 
Summary0004063: Creatures often Unbutcherable
DescriptionEverytime I kill a creature by some means other than a hunting dwarf or slaughtering a tame creature, I come into this problem. The dwarves grab the corpse of the creature and take it to my dump rather than my refuse piles. I try to schedule an order to Butcher a Dead Animal at the butcher shop and I get the message that it requires a nearby unrotten butcherable animal. I check the dump and the corpses are Forbidden, so I unforbid them. A stream of dwarves then comes down to get the unforbidden corpses, then drop them right back in the same place (dump) again with them listed as Forbidden again.
Steps To ReproduceKill something other than by hunting or slaughtering.
Tagsbutcher
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(0015428)
Footkerchief (manager)
2011-02-23 12:51

 Have you tried changing (o)rders regarding refuse and corpses?
(0015435)
Briggs (reporter)
2011-02-23 21:01

 What options should I change it to? I've told them to gather all corpses (not just Dwarf corpses) and to ignore refuse outside.
(0015448)
Infiltrator (reporter)
2011-02-24 10:05

 I'm having this same problem. I set up a special refuse stockpile specially for butchering next to my butcher. This works perfectly fine for hunting kill returns, but if an animal dies by any other means, such as by the military or starvation, then the butcher will refuse to touch it even though it's in a stockpile a tile away and isn't forbidden.
(0015460)
Footkerchief (manager)
2011-02-24 12:07

 Reminder sent to: Briggs

You should tell them not to auto-forbid corpses. This might not solve the problem, but it needs to be ruled out as a contributing factor.
(0015461)
Briggs (reporter)
2011-02-24 12:08
edited on: 2011-02-24 12:10

 I'm here right now, so I'll give that a shot.

*** I just checked my Orders>Forbid screen. This is what it shows:

Claim used ammunition
Claim your dead
Claim your death items
Claim other dead
Claim other death items

So nothing should be getting forbidden.
(0015462)
ellindsey (reporter)
2011-02-24 12:08

 What kind of creature is it? Very small creatures (rabbits, cavies, ducks, buzzards, and guineafowl) are almost always unbutcherable due to being too small to yield even a single unit of meat, fat, or bone. Young or small members of larger species may also sometimes be too small to butcher. And it isn't surprising that a creature that died of starvation won't be butcherable, since only tame creatures can starve.
(0015463)
Briggs (reporter)
2011-02-24 12:10

 @ellindsey: Water Buffalo, Draltha, Crundle, Cow, Horse, etc. All things that should be butcherable.
(0015464)
ellindsey (reporter)
2011-02-24 12:16

 DO you have them set to Save corpses, or Dump corpses?
(0015465)
Briggs (reporter)
2011-02-24 12:17

 @ellindsey: Where is that option set?
(0015466)
ellindsey (reporter)
2011-02-24 12:20

 Orders -> Refuse, I think. Don't have a copy of DF I can check handy on this computer.
(0015467)
Footkerchief (manager)
2011-02-24 12:24

 This one is more likely to get fixed if you upload a save demonstrating the problem. http://dffd.wimbli.com/ [^]
(0015468)
Briggs (reporter)
2011-02-24 12:28

 ellindsey fixed it. I had it set to dump bodies >.< Sorry!
(0015471)
Footkerchief (manager)
2011-02-24 13:01

 Okay, cool.

- Issue History
Date Modified Username Field Change
2011-02-23 12:47 Briggs New Issue
2011-02-23 12:49 Briggs Issue Monitored: Briggs
2011-02-23 12:51 Footkerchief Note Added: 0015428
2011-02-23 12:51 Footkerchief Tag Attached: AWAITING UPDATE
2011-02-23 21:01 Briggs Note Added: 0015435
2011-02-24 10:05 Infiltrator Note Added: 0015448
2011-02-24 10:05 Infiltrator Tag Attached: butcher
2011-02-24 10:05 Infiltrator Issue Monitored: Infiltrator
2011-02-24 12:07 Footkerchief Note Added: 0015460
2011-02-24 12:08 Briggs Note Added: 0015461
2011-02-24 12:08 ellindsey Note Added: 0015462
2011-02-24 12:10 Briggs Note Edited: 0015461 View Revisions
2011-02-24 12:10 Briggs Note Added: 0015463
2011-02-24 12:16 ellindsey Note Added: 0015464
2011-02-24 12:17 Briggs Note Added: 0015465
2011-02-24 12:20 ellindsey Note Added: 0015466
2011-02-24 12:24 Footkerchief Note Added: 0015467
2011-02-24 12:28 Briggs Note Added: 0015468
2011-02-24 13:01 Footkerchief Note Added: 0015471
2011-02-24 13:01 Footkerchief Status new => resolved
2011-02-24 13:01 Footkerchief Resolution open => no change required
2011-02-24 13:01 Footkerchief Assigned To => Footkerchief
2011-02-24 13:01 Footkerchief Tag Detached: AWAITING UPDATE
2011-02-24 17:29 Infiltrator Issue End Monitor: Infiltrator

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