0004191: job item lost or destroyed, beekeeping fail

(0016093)
Dwarfu (manager)
2011-03-11 05:10

Reminder sent to: TerryDactyl

What does 'fails to put 2 and 2 together' and 'isn't doing his job right' actually mean?

What job is getting cancelled? What workshop is it generated from, if any? What exactly are you trying to do that is causing this?

(0016097)
TerryDactyl (reporter)
2011-03-11 05:56

I wasn't actively trying to do anything. It just started on its own when the hive matured....

Problem solved. It was related to a hive sealed inside the fortress by constructed walls, floors & doors. Strangely, deactivating its collection still prevented other mature hives from collecting theirs. When I removed the door, my beekeeper collected the products normally.

(0016100)
Dwarfu (manager)
2011-03-11 06:22

Thanks for the follow-up. I'll leave it open because it probably shouldn't be generating jobs for inaccessible buildings (the hives).

(0017174)
nshapter (reporter)
2011-04-07 13:40

I have this too and the parent. Hive is empty, beekeeper constantly spamming 'Job item lost or destroyed'

I think wild hives are dying from natural causes or something. This seems to make any beekeeper pathing to them start spamming or freeze up until you remove them from the job/ unbuild the hive box.

(0017511)
Kogut (reporter)
2011-04-25 13:45

Can you upload save?

(0017634)
Falcon (reporter)
2011-05-05 07:49

I've noticed that my beekeepers start spamming cancelations whenever they are unable to reach a wild hive to install in one of the artificial ones.

(0018019)
LuckyLuigi (reporter)
2011-06-20 08:01

I can confirm that when you have 30 hives the amount lag is almost game breaking when this occurs, with hundreds upon hundreds of cancellations. Eventually, as there is no way to determine which hive is acting up, I resorted to deconstructing all the hives which stopped this.
Sadly, this bug is gamebreaking for the beekeeping industry, which is otherwise very cool.

My stockpile with only honey and honey jelly selected is also not working. The honey filled jugs stay in the presser workshop, cluttering it up.

Finally, the inability to seperate unglazed from glazed jugs in stockpiles make the ceramic industry hopeless for any fort dealing with liquids, as (unusable) unglazed jugs will quickly fill up the tools stockpiles.
Oddly, rock jugs do not require glazing to be able to be used for liquids, even tough the glazing order is 'glaze rock/ceramic jug'.

NOTE : I only have one dwarf with beekeeping enabled as I am aware of the other 'conflict' bug with multiple beekeepers.

Can upload old save on request.

Related thread : http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=85745.0 [^]

(0018644)
MikeS (reporter)
2011-08-28 17:48

This bug seems to happen a lot when you use civilian burrows, even if the burrows encompass the hives and all your stockpiles. During a siege I'll often see thousands and thousands of these error messages.

I guess that it might be related to the beekeeping dorf not being able to path to natural hives outside the fortress?

(0024307)
Footkerchief (manager)
2014-01-21 18:59

Please PM me on the forums once a save has been uploaded to http://dffd.wimbli.com/ [^]

Issue History
Date Modified	Username	Field	Change
2011-03-11 04:31	TerryDactyl	New Issue
2011-03-11 05:10	Dwarfu	Note Added: 0016093
2011-03-11 05:10	Dwarfu	Tag Attached: AWAITING UPDATE
2011-03-11 05:56	TerryDactyl	Note Added: 0016097
2011-03-11 06:22	Dwarfu	Note Added: 0016100
2011-03-11 06:22	Dwarfu	Tag Detached: AWAITING UPDATE
2011-03-11 06:22	Dwarfu	Relationship added	related to 0003138
2011-03-23 13:11	Dwarfu	Relationship added	related to 0004311
2011-03-23 13:14	Dwarfu	Relationship added	related to 0004014
2011-04-05 07:35	Footkerchief	Relationship added	related to 0001981
2011-04-05 07:35	Footkerchief	Relationship deleted	related to 0001981
2011-04-05 07:36	Footkerchief	Relationship added	related to 0003981
2011-04-05 07:36	Footkerchief	Relationship deleted	related to 0004014
2011-04-05 07:36	Footkerchief	Relationship deleted	related to 0004311
2011-04-05 07:37	Footkerchief	Relationship deleted	related to 0003138
2011-04-05 07:37	Footkerchief	Relationship replaced	child of 0003981
2011-04-07 13:40	nshapter	Note Added: 0017174
2011-04-25 11:26	Dawide	Issue Monitored: Dawide
2011-04-25 13:45	Kogut	Note Added: 0017511
2011-05-05 07:49	Falcon	Note Added: 0017634
2011-06-20 08:01	LuckyLuigi	Note Added: 0018019
2011-07-30 22:34	deathc4	Note Added: 0018375
2011-07-30 22:40	deathc4	Note Deleted: 0018375
2011-08-28 17:48	MikeS	Note Added: 0018644
2012-02-16 14:49	Footkerchief	Relationship added	has duplicate 0005197
2014-01-21 18:59	Footkerchief	Note Added: 0024307
2014-01-21 18:59	Footkerchief	Status	new => resolved
2014-01-21 18:59	Footkerchief	Resolution	open => unable to reproduce
2014-01-21 18:59	Footkerchief	Assigned To	=> Footkerchief

Notes
(0016093) Dwarfu (manager) 2011-03-11 05:10	Reminder sent to: TerryDactyl What does 'fails to put 2 and 2 together' and 'isn't doing his job right' actually mean? What job is getting cancelled? What workshop is it generated from, if any? What exactly are you trying to do that is causing this?

(0016097) TerryDactyl (reporter) 2011-03-11 05:56	I wasn't actively trying to do anything. It just started on its own when the hive matured.... Problem solved. It was related to a hive sealed inside the fortress by constructed walls, floors & doors. Strangely, deactivating its collection still prevented other mature hives from collecting theirs. When I removed the door, my beekeeper collected the products normally.

(0016100) Dwarfu (manager) 2011-03-11 06:22	Thanks for the follow-up. I'll leave it open because it probably shouldn't be generating jobs for inaccessible buildings (the hives).

(0017174) nshapter (reporter) 2011-04-07 13:40	I have this too and the parent. Hive is empty, beekeeper constantly spamming 'Job item lost or destroyed' I think wild hives are dying from natural causes or something. This seems to make any beekeeper pathing to them start spamming or freeze up until you remove them from the job/ unbuild the hive box.

(0017511) Kogut (reporter) 2011-04-25 13:45	Can you upload save?

(0017634) Falcon (reporter) 2011-05-05 07:49	I've noticed that my beekeepers start spamming cancelations whenever they are unable to reach a wild hive to install in one of the artificial ones.

(0018019) LuckyLuigi (reporter) 2011-06-20 08:01	I can confirm that when you have 30 hives the amount lag is almost game breaking when this occurs, with hundreds upon hundreds of cancellations. Eventually, as there is no way to determine which hive is acting up, I resorted to deconstructing all the hives which stopped this. Sadly, this bug is gamebreaking for the beekeeping industry, which is otherwise very cool. My stockpile with only honey and honey jelly selected is also not working. The honey filled jugs stay in the presser workshop, cluttering it up. Finally, the inability to seperate unglazed from glazed jugs in stockpiles make the ceramic industry hopeless for any fort dealing with liquids, as (unusable) unglazed jugs will quickly fill up the tools stockpiles. Oddly, rock jugs do not require glazing to be able to be used for liquids, even tough the glazing order is 'glaze rock/ceramic jug'. NOTE : I only have one dwarf with beekeeping enabled as I am aware of the other 'conflict' bug with multiple beekeepers. Can upload old save on request. Related thread : http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=85745.0 [^]

(0018644) MikeS (reporter) 2011-08-28 17:48	This bug seems to happen a lot when you use civilian burrows, even if the burrows encompass the hives and all your stockpiles. During a siege I'll often see thousands and thousands of these error messages. I guess that it might be related to the beekeeping dorf not being able to path to natural hives outside the fortress?

(0024307) Footkerchief (manager) 2014-01-21 18:59	Please PM me on the forums once a save has been uploaded to http://dffd.wimbli.com/ [^]